Curse

Kaitoa · Mar 14, 2007, 09:37 PM // 21:37

Walkthrough
Intro:
So I have written this as a result of having to re-build my account. Since, a hacker stole it and when I got it returned everything was deleted out of it. So, as a result of being Gold-less I decided that I would focus all my resources on getting gold asap. Being a Warrior player, I decided to make 8 Green Hunters.
So that’s what I did, each character taking about 3-4 days of playing (only in afternoons/evenings) to progress to Max level. This is the easiest and fastest way that I know to make a Fully functional, Maxed out, Green Hunter. The reason why this is the quickest way, is that Ngapui is the first place on any map to get a good enough Elite skill. That skill obviously is Grenths Balance. Once you have this skill, you are able to take out Bosses. I usually take out Wing first and celebrate when/if I get his axe. Because that marks the beginning of yet another lucrative carreer in green hunting and he's easy to kill and redily availible.
Lastly, I find the drop rates on greens are excellent with New green hunters because if you see the drop rate going down from Bosses ie three things drop, to two things drop, to one thing drop. Well, you simply go to the next quest (of which you have many availible) or mission and continue through the game. All quests and missions are easy because you have not progressed far through the game. When you’ve finished the pve you simply return and hunt again or you change to the next character and go hunting

Last point I’de like to make is that I have tried to keep costs as low as possible. So if you don’t agree with some of the chooses I make eg in Runes that I use. Then, obviously use your own judgment.
So, heres the walk through, bold headings indicate the path you take, Italic points are the things you need to do when you get to the destination.

Creating a Green Hunter Walkthough
Start
Create a Canthan Character, choose Necro as your second profession, when you can. Keep going through game until you come to Zen Daijun the second Mission.
Zen Daijun
Easy mission just get a full group. If there is a MM Necro get in his group.
Market Place
Run out through north gate to Bukdek Byway
Kaineng Center (via Bukdek Byway)
Armor – Your choose is between Gladiators or Legionnaires Armor. I choose Legionnaires for the better armor. This comes in handy during missions and quests where you have to be the tank, that’s why ive included "Watch Yourself!" in the Pve build. Gladiators in my opinion is more useful for green hunting however. That extra energy means you are more capable of either, staying alive with Endure Pain or dealing out damage with Deadly Riposte.
Runes – I buy Tactics +3, Strength +1, Damage Reduction -3, Sword +1 and Axe +1 this is to keep costs down and actually ive found 3 major and 1 superior Vigor rune just going through the quests. So ive just used those.
Skills – Buy everything you can from the builds. Plus anything else you may think you may use. If you have finished the Signet Capture quest in Kaineng on a previous character then you will also be able to buy these. If so buy atleast two.
Weapons – Wings axe is perfect for Pve, look for a price of about 10k or less. Sskai’s sword is best for Green hunting once again about 10k or less. You will also need a good shield. If your short of cash go for a Geoffers, medium price range (umm the leaf skin one), or buy an Exalted aegis for about 15-20k.
Quests – collect all quests from NPC’s.
Raisu Pavilion (via Kaineng)
Quests– collect all quests from Emperor guy.
Bukdek Byway (via Kaineng)
Chun – Signet capture (return to Kaineng for reward)
Bukdek Byway (via Market Place)
Wing – Signet capture, Triple Chop [Elite], need for Pve Axe build
Collect - 3 Jade Brotherhood capes (return to Kaineng for reward, taek next quest from him. It will come in handy later on.)
Bukdek Byway (via Kaineng)
Quests - Drunken master, Feed the hungry (return to Kaineng for reward)
Bejunkan Pier (via Kaineng)
Quest – Trouble in Kryta –1.5k no fight! Just enjoy the trip

Lions Arch
Skills – Buy everything that’s in the builds, that you can not get at Kaineng e.g. Dolyak
Bejunkan Pier (via Kaineng)
Quest – Elonans in Cantha –Hard fight!
Kamadan
Heros – I have unlocked all Elites for War and Monk from first two chapters of game. This allows me to create powerful Hero’s immediately. With the Hero’s on my team I am more able to complete missions and quest’s without failing and therefore having to start the mission or quest again. Thereby cutting down time between farming greens. I also try to get the Hero’s as early as possible, so as to get them to max level ASAP.
Ran Musu Gardens
Attribute quest 1, ridiculously simple quest for the reward that you get. In Prophecies the first attribute quest is in the Desert! So not only can you not get there very quickly but its also a lot harder to pass. Anyway, 4k exp and 15 attribute points is your reward.
Seitung Harbour
Attribute quest 2, another easy quest. 4k exp and 15 attr points reward.
Wajjun Bazaar (via Market Place)
Complete all Quests If you have Seek Out Brother Tosai Quest active then all Am far in the area are now your friends, saving you lots of time clearing this area

You get this quest from Bujo in Kaineng the guy you gave the 3 Jade Brotherhood capes too.
(Run or map travel back and forth complete all quests, you should be level 18-20 by now, finish with Market Mayhem)
Underworld (via Wajjun Bazzar)
Quests – Orion tomb, Fire Golems, Market Mayhem.
Vizunah Mission
Try to get in a group with a good MM Necro. A lot of time can be wasted if you join groups without one. Pay if you have to!
Shadow Passage (via Dragons Throat)
Quest – talk to Togo, If you haven’t already Signet Capture Chun for exp.
Bukdek Byway (via Market Place, its quicker)
Quest – Talk to Nika
Wajjun Bazaar (via Market Place)
Quest – To the stars
Nahpui Mission
Notes:
Take the left path at the beginning of the mission.
Can be completed solo with good Heros and Henchies (I find it easy, just a little long 30-40min).
Kill Celestials in this order, Kirin, Turtle, Pheonix and then Dragon. The Dragon essences are the hardest to kill so leave them for last.
Celestial Turtle – Signet Capture, Grenths Balance (Elite)
Don’t worry too much if you die, because capping the elite is your main aim, not passing the mission.
Senji’s Corner
Profession Changer – good for running builds etc but not necessary.
Ghial – Kill with Grenths Whammo build (search guru for guide). Havnt done before but seems do-able.
Underworld (via Nahpui, then Wajjun Bazzar)
Waeng – quest. Build: Grenths Riposte, Drops Green Lou’s Karambits.
Bukdek Byway (via Market Place)
Wing – Build: Grenths Riposte, Drops Green Wings Axe

And there you have it. A Maxed out Green hunter. What you do next is up to you. Personally I head over to NF, inorder to get to the mainland, and all those juicy bosses and there green weapons. At the moment, prices for those greens are still high enough to make it worth your while. One last point is that it seems that new characters get good drops early on. Since I have started doing this I have gotten 2 Black dyes, a Silver dye, a Gold Superior Vigor Rune and 3 Purple Major Vigor Runes. So that’s also a good reason to do this. Good Hunting!

Builds
These are the best builds availible to you at this time. Ofcourse, variations on them are possible, but these work fine.

Pve Axe (for quests and missions)
Strength: 13 (12+1)
Axe Mastery: 13 (12+1)
Tactics: 10
Triple Chop [Elite], Cyclone Axe, Dismember, Executioner's Strike, Wild Blow, Endure Pain, Healing Signet, "Watch Yourself!"

Grenth’s Riposte (to kill melee bosses with)
Strength: left over points
Swordsmanship: As much as possible
Tactics: 15 (12+3)
- Riposte,. Deadly Riposte, Sun and Moon Slash, Final Thrust, Bonetti's Defense (or Endure Pain), Grenth's Balance [Elite], Healing Signet, Dolyak Signet

Grenth’s Retsac (to kill non-melee bosses with)
Strength: As much as possible
Swordsmanship: As much as possible
Tactics: 9 or there abouts
Sever Artery, Gash, Sun and Moon Slash, Final Thrust, Endure Pain, Grenth's Balance [Elite], Healing Signet, Dolyak Signet
Alernative Skills: Include an Interrupt as per advice from "Lambda The Great" see below.
Savage slash or Distracting blow
Distracting blow seems to be the better choice energy wise and therefore spammability wise. Energy can be a real problem with these Green hunters (u might want to buy Gladiators armor). But if you use successfully it can greatly decrease the time it takes to kill certain bosses, like Monk bosses. Ide swap it for Dolyak (espeically wth a Monk boss with low damage)

Grenth’s Slayer (able to clear whole areas of bosses with this build)
Riposte, D.Riposte, Sever Artery, Gash, Endure Pain, Grenth's Balance [Elite], Healing Signet, Dolyak Signet or Bonettis Def.

drakun01 · Mar 14, 2007, 10:20 PM // 22:20

So this is basically a leveling guide? With green locations?
And what is a green hunter?

All in all it looks OK, not really necessary though.

Kaitoa · Mar 14, 2007, 11:00 PM // 23:00

I dont think you understand the implications of this guide. Maybe, you need more time to think about it.
Firstly, obviously a walkthrough would have a leveling guide, because the title says quickest and easiest way to make a Green hunter. Secondly a Green Hunter obviously is a character thats sole purpose is to repeatedly and efficiently collect Green (Unique) Weapons.
I made this as a way around the Anti-Green farming code. When I had just the one Warrrior farming greens the process was never quick enough for me. So I decided to make more. I now have 8 Green Hunters. An example of usage is this. Take Arkjok Ward I am able farm 5 Bosses with the one build usind G/B. I can repeatedly return to these bosses on all 8 characters, one after the other. Thereby, repeatedly collecting (hunting) those bosses and their green weapons. With another G/B build I invented (Ill put on forum soon) I can repeatedly kill Dwayna and the others near her. And ofcourse, for the rest of NF or Factions I am able to repeat this process. So, as you can see these Green Hunters are exactly that. Characters created to kill bosses repeatedly for their weapons.
Also, these Green Hunters start paying for themselves in about 3-4 days. Try making a 55 Monk that will pay for itself in that time.
Lastly, I thought Ide share this info. for anyone who cares.

lennymon · Mar 15, 2007, 02:08 AM // 02:08

good work turning a negative into a positive

VitisVinifera · Mar 15, 2007, 03:17 AM // 03:17

personally my favorite green farmer war build is the auspicious parry / riposte / deadly riposte, with dolyak and live vicariously and whatever else. Can take nearly every war, sin, and derv boss very very fast

Xiaxhou of Trinity · Mar 15, 2007, 04:07 AM // 04:07

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Originally Posted by Kaitoa

Grenth’s Riposte (to kill melee bosses with)
Strength: left over points
Swordsmanship: As much as possible
Tactics: 15 (12+3)
- Riposte,. Deadly Riposte, Sun and Moon Slash, Final Thrust, Bonetti's Defense (or Endure Pain), Grenth's Balance [Elite], Healing Signet, Dolyak Signet

Grenth’s Whammo (to kill non-melee bosses with)
Strength: As much as possible
Swordsmanship: As much as possible
Tactics: 9 or there abouts
Sever Artery, Gash, Sun and Moon Slash, Final Thrust, Endure Pain, Grenth's Balance [Elite], Healing Signet, Dolyak Signet

QQ: how do you outdamage healers with riposte? Is it GB, sun and moon, final thrust? I love grenths tank but I could never outdamage groups with healers, so I stick to reefclaw and etc.

drakun01 · Mar 15, 2007, 04:41 AM // 04:41

I think I get it now, but doesn't this hinge on the theory that the anti-farm code decreases over time?

Edit: lol I get it now. You are completely avoiding triggering the anti-farm code in the first place! Nice!

PS: Please post your Dwayna GB build, my dervish is very needy!

Kaitoa · Mar 15, 2007, 06:46 AM // 06:46

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Originally Posted by VitisVinifera

personally my favorite green farmer war build is the auspicious parry / riposte / deadly riposte, with dolyak and live vicariously and whatever else. Can take nearly every war, sin, and derv boss very very fast

Right and Auspicious Parry can be capped in the very next mission in Cantha. So very easily acquired. I actually had been thinking about capping it. But because of time restraints havnt as of yet. Also, I am quite proficient at using the GB builds and variants so sort of havnt needed to. Lastly Ide like to go there because then i can start farming Lou, for the green Lou's Karambits 15-20k atm. I sold 1 for 17k a couple of weeks ago, in Kaineng actually had 2 ppl wanting it

Xiaxhou, not sure what you mean? If your talking about killing a Healer Boss just use the Grenths Whammo build not the Riposte one. Should work fine. All you need to do with healers is outdamage their healing. Not sure what else to say.

drakun01, yeah not only do i avoid triggering the anti-farm (sort of not that good yet) but if the drops get low, ie 1 thing drops instead of 3. Then the advice from arena net is to go complete quests and missions. The quests and missions ahead of these Hunters are all very simple to complete (just run here talk to this guy sort of thing, maybe a fight) because they are relatively early on in the campaign. So, its quite easy and quick to turn the anti-farm code off again. This is the theory, and it seems to be working I find about a 50% drop rate on greens early on. Like Wing and Waeng, out of 8 characters I have gotten 4 wings axes and 1 Lous karambits from Waeng. Once you get to Arkjok Ward things get interesting. There I find I might do the area once or twice depending on drops. This can be done immediately. No nead to continue campaign. If drops decrease. I carry on with campaign. Simple as that really. I then rescue Koss. So I can then kill Grenth as well. May save killing till after rescueing Koss actually to maximise killing Grenth. After that my next prey is Dwayna, so I try to get to Dejarin estate. I find killing Dwayna affects drops quickly so I will only kill her once or max twice. Next thing to do is get to Barborous Coast because I can kill Shagu, The Mesmer boss (forget the name), Modti and Wahli with the one build. All of these weapons are priced well atm. I find a green will drop 50% of the time here if the bosses are dopping well (2-3 drops). If I see two items and money then thats a good sign. If I see a gold exp scroll as well, then thats an excellent sign

Damb sorry about the long windedness of these posts.
I guess I have alot to say about this

Cebe · Mar 15, 2007, 09:41 AM // 09:41

Now I like your posts, don't get me wrong, and I do not deny they work...but my Ele generally does most of my farming, and when drop s start to die off I do a few missions (that is, mission towns) and this seems to generally reset "the code". For example, I went out to farm myself a Ferverborn Staff. I tried 50 times and had real bad luck that day. Then I helped some friends out with missions like Gate of Madness, Vizunah Square etc.. and went back to the boss...one dropped straight away.

Would it not be simpler to take one warrior through a few missions from time to time rather than starting from scratch?

Kaitoa · Mar 16, 2007, 07:11 PM // 19:11

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Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

Would it not be simpler to take one warrior through a few missions from time to time rather than starting from scratch?

Well at the moment your question needs more testing. The effectiveness of having multiple green hunter characters really hinges on the answer to the next question.
That is, Does the anti-green farming code affect your account as a whole, or does it affect each character individually?
Now if it affects your account as a whole, well, then having multiple characters would not be very effective. For example if my Ele character is getting only the 1 drop from bosses. Switching to my War character wouldn't make much difference.
If however the code affects each character individually, well, then having multiple characters would be more effective. Infact your capacity to aquire Green weapons would multiply with each character you have. Say I had 4 Green hunters on my account, my Ele is getting hopeless drops so I switch to one of my green hunters and immediately start farming. i repeat this four times.
So as stated previously atm the answer to the above question needs more testing. Im banking (hopeing) on the code affecting each character individually. If not then well Im looking at eventually acquiring eight books at the end of NF. So if ppl have any info. pls post.

BTW. one kool benefit of having multi characters quickly completing quest. That I have just discovered is this. Trade Contracts in Vabbi, 7 of these can be exchanged for a Sapphire or Ruby or a Diamond. On wiki there is a list of some 25+ quests each with a trade contract as its reward. Multiply that by 8 for the amount of characters I have set to go through there. And the future looks good

Kaitoa · Mar 19, 2007, 07:29 PM // 19:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaitoa

Does the anti-green farming code affect your account as a whole, or does it affect each character individually?

Possible answer. It looks like it could be that the code affects your whole account. Why? Well, I was getting 1 drop on my farmers so I dicided to get one of my other characters up to Wing. So I did and the drop he got was 1 drop only, a jade bracelet. This was the first time he had killed a boss for his green. So why else would he get only the 1 drop.
So, anyway will keep testing this Q.

drakun01 · Mar 20, 2007, 03:57 AM // 03:57

Good god Kait! I don't suppose I could borrow some maoney, buddy ol' pal?
If you need help testing something, PM me in-game, my ign is The Wild Rose

Coloneh · Mar 20, 2007, 04:34 AM // 04:34

wait...... you made 8 warriors? to farm greens? why not make one? what is the point of having 8 second-class farmers? maybe i read it wrong?

killercroc · Mar 20, 2007, 05:23 AM // 05:23

lol i think he made one of each class...
another benefit is the treasure chests

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Kaitoa · Mar 20, 2007, 08:51 AM // 08:51

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

wait...... you made 8 warriors? to farm greens? why not make one? what is the point of having 8 second-class farmers? maybe i read it wrong?

Exactly why make just one, when I can have eight? What is the difference? Which is more effective, in terms of farming greens? That is the point!
If I did everything just like the rest of you, what would be my result? Would they be anything special? No, my results would be nothing special at all, mediocre at best. So you just keep doing what your doing. You and I know the results you will get from that. I'll try something different and see what I get.
Also, these are not second class farmers. In my hands, I can farm everything I like. The build is good enough to target all classes, melee or non-melee. Some Bosses are more difficult then others. But luckily the Bosses who matter (ie priced well) are availible to me, eg Dwayna. If your saying my ability to quickly get through the game is second class, well my results are excellent. In fact, I have found all NF missions to be easy, the first time I have had trouble was at Ruins of Morah. I then read on Wiki how to do it and then beat up Old whats her name. All these missions I do solo (with Heros/Henchies) I fiind PUGs (groups with ppl in it) to be too unpredictable so I dont bother with them. Infact I find it stupid to wait around spamming Tank LFG when I already know I can pass the mission quite easily.

Lastly, I have 8 Warrior's!!! Not 1 of every class! Infact, 8 W/N's

I only change class for running builds. Like the Droks running build. (not to actually run droks though).

HTW · Mar 20, 2007, 12:56 PM // 12:56

Nice guide you got there, this might be just what i need to even look at my factions campaign.
Shame about your account.
QQ: Is the green drop rate affected by the amount of people farming it?
as i have been farming exuro flatus for quite a while,83runs by my count and no drop, where as some of my friends got it within their first 20 runs.

Kaitoa · Mar 21, 2007, 04:37 AM // 04:37

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Originally Posted by HTW

QQ: Is the green drop rate affected by the amount of people farming it?as i have been farming exuro flatus for quite a while,83runs by my count and no drop, where as some of my friends got it within their first 20 runs.

Well i think your over complicating things. It doesnt matter what your friend is doing, or anyone else. What matters is if you are over farming this guy. Which I would say you are.
This is the system I use (obviously I dont actually know whether these figures are correct or not.)
Amount of Drops from Boss - Percentage chance of a Green
3+ drops - 30%
2 Drops - 20%
1 Drop - 10%
The more you farm the boss at 1 drop the chance of a Green drop decreases until its zero.
So, with this system I try to keep the percentages high. Therefore, if I see the drops start to fall I immediately go Missioning, to reset the amount of drops to 3.
With using this system though I have be able to increase my chance of a green drop's. In the pre-NF days I was matching the drop rate of everyone else which was about a Green drop in every ten runs, 10% success rate. My best now is 1 Green out of 2 kills (50%!) this I have gotten from Dwayna and Shagu. ATM though I am not having the same luck, I have killed Dwayna 6 times since the last green drop and no luck. But I think its because I'm on 1 drop ATM.
Have a look at the attached picture of some of the latest greens I have been able to get . Notice that they all are accomplanied by other drops in fact 3+ drops. So I think to increase your chance of a green drop you need to keep drops at 3+.

Coloneh · Mar 22, 2007, 01:19 AM // 01:19

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Originally Posted by Kaitoa

Lastly, I have 8 Warrior's!!! Not 1 of every class! Infact, 8 W/N's

I honestly hate players like you. you tried warrior as your first class and had a small understanding for it so thats all you used. and worst aof all you mad 8 of the exact same character. you know you could do the same with just one? and then ever try another class that can do it better.

yikes

lambda the great · Mar 22, 2007, 05:07 AM // 05:07

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

I honestly hate players like you. you tried warrior as your first class and had a small understanding for it so thats all you used. and worst aof all you mad 8 of the exact same character. you know you could do the same with just one? and then ever try another class that can do it better.

yikes

I honestly hate players like you. How are you to know he has a small understanding of playing warrior? So what if he made 8, the guy likes WARRIORS for pet sake, they kick ass.

For the "Grenth's Whammo" thing you might wanna put a interupting skill...like Savage slash or Distracting blow, that'll take care of any heals.

ryanryanryan0310 · Mar 22, 2007, 05:14 AM // 05:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coloneh

I honestly hate players like you. you tried warrior as your first class and had a small understanding for it so thats all you used. and worst aof all you mad 8 of the exact same character. you know you could do the same with just one? and then ever try another class that can do it better.

yikes

No need to flame, keep it to yourself..

Nice guides and you can't be Wammo when your a W/N

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